Curse

tmakinen · Jul 03, 2008, 08:56 AM // 08:56

Well, I'm amused. What ANet could have done to nerf the Chaos Planes run would've been to change the locations/patrol routes of Charged Blacknesses on Twin Serpent Mountains which would have had a huge impact on permasins and zero collateral impact (permasins elsewhere, other teams in UW). Instead, ANet did something that kept the permasins doing business as usual but which had a huge collateral effect. Way to go

I feel inclined to farm some ecto just in spite (though I don't need them for anything).

distilledwill · Jul 03, 2008, 09:04 AM // 09:04

^ now thats a fine idea. Just either add 1 or 2 more patrols. or change them to that you can't get past without engaging at least one mob.

Having said that, I dont mind the changes to shadow form all that much. Its still viable for running etc without being hideously overpowered in farming.

BlackSephir · Jul 03, 2008, 09:05 AM // 09:05

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

I actually thought ANet did something good. I guess I was wrong.

thar thar, we all thought the same during our adventure with GW.

BenjZee · Jul 03, 2008, 09:15 AM // 09:15

price check on ecto 4.5k

Drake Aran · Jul 03, 2008, 09:23 AM // 09:23

The 50% damage reduction doesn't make any sense. You're killing SF-based green farming, not only ectos insane drop!
But, even more important, IT'S TOO LATE! Prices will go up again and this is fine, but why the hell did you wait for WEEKS before doing anything? This way, rich people will always be richer and poor people will always be poorer. This is NOT the way to fix economy...provided that you really want to fix it, of course. Thanks to this two updates (the one that permitted Ectos' insane farming and the one that finally nerfed it), you only made the gap between rich players and poor players WIDER. Nice move...

azizul1975 · Jul 03, 2008, 09:36 AM // 09:36

i cant remember, is there an enchantment that remove enchantment from an attacker if he hit someone with that enchantment ? give the monsters those skills...... see how SF goes...

Turbobusa · Jul 03, 2008, 09:39 AM // 09:39

^That's rending aura, but it only works on melee attacks iirc

Arkantos · Jul 03, 2008, 09:41 AM // 09:41

[rending aura]

Only works on melee attacks.

Vehemence · Jul 03, 2008, 09:43 AM // 09:43

I think it is a good update by Anet. People just cannot stop complaining. Any update will be criticized.

BlackSephir · Jul 03, 2008, 09:47 AM // 09:47

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Originally Posted by Vehemence

I think it is a good update by Anet. People just cannot stop complaining. Any update will be criticized.

Cept that perma sf uw is still possible (at least I heard so) so what AN's done is wasted their time.

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Profession: W/Rt

Meh, why do I bother.

Omnidragon42 · Jul 03, 2008, 09:50 AM // 09:50

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

Meh, why do I bother.

Not all warriors are terribad, just most of them

The Chaos Plains solo is still just as easy. Slightly slower and there's less Mindblades, but I still went down there and got 5 ecto in 25 minutes.

Arkantos · Jul 03, 2008, 09:54 AM // 09:54

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Originally Posted by Vehemence

I think it is a good update by Anet. People just cannot stop complaining. Any update will be criticized.

I don't mean to put down your opinion, but how is this a good update? The update was intended to nerf the shadow form/chaos plains farm. The problem is, the farm is just as easy, and every other shadow form farm (the ones that had little to no effect on anything) are all nerfed.

In the end the problem ANet tried to fix isn't fixed, and there are a shit load of harmless builds ruined.

Stuart444 · Jul 03, 2008, 09:59 AM // 09:59

All I will say is, they said they would MONITOR the nerf and make aditional changes as neccessary, it may not be permanent so instead of QQing about it, why don't you go make a complaining/suggestion thread in sardelac/on reginas wiki and be nice about it (and don't say that they wont read or care, even if they don't reply, they read what is put there, it's just they have a life and ALOT of work to do >_< )

if ectos prices still gets affected back to what it was earlier before the nerf, then perhaps things will change again, they will balance THIER Game the way THEY want, and monitor things as needed so stop QQing so much saying that they dont care or saying they are stupid because it's getting ****ing old, if you don't like the game or if you don't like the way Anet do things, then find another game to play, there is plenty of people who play each day who don't come onto forums like this so it's not like you will be missed if you leave the game

/end rant

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

I don't mean to put down your opinion, but how is this a good update? The update was intended to nerf the shadow form/chaos plains farm. The problem is, the farm is just as easy, and every other shadow form farm (the ones that had little to no effect on anything) are all nerfed.

In the end the problem ANet tried to fix isn't fixed, and there are a shit load of harmless builds ruined.

then I don't know, complain about it? as I said above, if they notice it is still as easy as ever (and i mean by monitoring IN GAME and not on a forum) then they will likely change it again such as fix the chaos planes to before the nerf and instead nerf SF even more. It's not like this is permanent if it hasn't fixed what Anet attempted to fix.

they don't exactly KNOW what the outcomes will be until they have tried it on real people, Play testing can only do so much, which is why they put the updates out and sees if people still comes up with a way to do things easily (ie the SF chaos planes farming still being done easily)

Ate of DK · Jul 03, 2008, 10:03 AM // 10:03

For all those people who have trouble reading previous posts!
The PERMA SHADOW FORM ASSASSIN can still farm the Chaos Planes!
- I'm just posting this, I'm not pro or against SF. Main thing a game should do is having fun.

How do they do it?
- You use other skills that cause burning!
- It takes a bit longer to complete.
- You avoid the new enemies.

People allready posted more options and there is also a video on youtube.
Go to youtube and search for this: "Post-Nerf farming!!! A/E Chaos Plains"

I've just been down there myself, see this screenshot:

So what happened?
Instead of celebrating here that ecto's will go up, you should check the ingame traders!

- Last night it looked like favor was ending.
- The Dev. update was before the actual update.

This caused people to quickly buy ecto's because they can only rise when both come to an end. But what happened?

- Anet added 30.000min of favor.
- Anet nerfed Shadow Form farming in general but didn't make it imposible to farm the Chaos Planes. That was never their intention cause they mentioned that people require more skill to there farm now. (Having skill means: Just walk past the new enemy and don't bother about him)

So what happened to the ecto price then?
As a result, ecto's went from 3,5K last night up to 5,5K after the update because everyone bought like crazy. Everyone got faith in the ecto's.

- People sell the ecto's they bought for 3,5K last night and make a small profit.
- The trader gets his ecto's back, thus lowers the price.
- It's still easy to farm ~4 ecto's in 30min with an A/E.

Looking at the trader now tells you that ecto's went down to 4,5K again.

For those who are at work, this screenshot was taken 2 minutes ago:

RiKio · Jul 03, 2008, 10:14 AM // 10:14

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES.

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I´ve saved 42 ectos for this day...the day when SF got nerfed......42 ectos...muahhahaha I hope their price rises like the sun on the morning

Ate of DK · Jul 03, 2008, 10:19 AM // 10:19

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Originally Posted by RiKio

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES.

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I´ve saved 42 ectos for this day...the day when SF got nerfed......42 ectos...muahhahaha I hope their price rises like the sun on the morning

/sigh, did you read one post above you?
They are going down, not up!

RiKio · Jul 03, 2008, 10:33 AM // 10:33

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Originally Posted by Ate of DK

/sigh, did you read one post above you?
They are going down, not up!

Lol, sorry...I was waiting for this day long time ago........

The farming build you´ve posted is being analyzed in PvXWiki. In a few minutes, everyone will be farming ectos again

Goddbye to my plan to get rich. /sigh.

Mykaal Avalon · Jul 03, 2008, 10:41 AM // 10:41

I made most my cash from a/e sliver armour. Shadow of haste build pre buff and perma sin after buff. Mostly I farmed runes and bosses and made decent cash from it, nothing flash but decent. Farmed enough ecto for obby armour then eased up on the plains run.
Now with the SF nerf the regular farming I once did isnt really viable because of the extra time it now takes. Also some enemy are now impossible as they regen quicker than the damage.

So to make my money now I guess my only option is to farm for ectos on the plains. Kinda ironic aint it.

ProgTes · Jul 03, 2008, 10:41 AM // 10:41

Hahahahaha. This update is pure awesome.

Kikuta · Jul 03, 2008, 10:48 AM // 10:48

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Originally Posted by Ate of DK

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